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Islam for Dummies!
Tilføjet 14/06 19:06 til Politik af Winston Smith
Denne artikel er gengivet fra den amerikanske blog Gates of Vienna. Den beskriver kort, hvad islam er og hvorfor man gør klogt i, at forholde sig særdeles kritisk overfor denne såkaldte 'religion'. Som det understreges i slutningen, er den islamiske ideologi blandt andet et problem i kraft af sin egen kanoniske basis fordi den kræver af sine tilhængere, at 'kafir' ('den vantro' og dermed også de fleste danskere) skal udryddes.
Islam explained for those who do not read the Koran!
By Baron Bodissey
Islam is not as complicated as they would have you believe.
You have the Koran: A hodgepodge written by unknown men under poorly understood conditions. But this doesn’t matter, because even Muslims don’t really care about the Koran’s historical origins. Only its current contents have importance in their eyes.
You have a prophet: Muhammad, whose deeds are known thanks to the following texts:
- The Sira, which is a biography of Muhammad
- The Hadith, which are records of oral testimony about the acts and words of Muhammad
- To establish an Islamic society arranged by the rules contained in the Koran and in the words of the Prophet, which are grouped under the name “Sharia”.
- To faithfully imitate the conduct of Muhammad, who is the archetype of the perfect Muslim.
What is a “Muslim”?
A Muslim (“one who submits” in Arabic) is one who accepts and seeks to conform to the rules of Sharia and tries to imitate Muhammad. If you do not fall into this category, you are a “kafir”.
What is a “kafir”?
A kafir is not equal to a Muslim. He is an inferior, despicable and impure, cursed by the god of the Muslims and destined to burn in hell.
What does it mean to imitate Muhammad?
To eradicate the kuffar (plural of kafir), to destroy their cultures and their societies in order to erect in their place an Islamic society ruled by Sharia.
The example of Muhammad shows that all methods are possible: proselytism, threats, rape, torture, pillage, trickery, and/or murder. No tactic is better than another and all are fair game depending on conditions. The goal is the same: the disappearance of the kuffar.
Islam is thus a process working towards the elimination of the kuffar and the destruction of their societies in order to install a universal Islamic civilization.
The ostensible complexity of Islam is simply due to the different interpretations as to how to achieve this goal, but they all involve the disappearance of the kuffar at some stage…without exception.
That’s it. As you can see, Islam is not complicated at all.
If you want to know the details, you can always read the Koran, the Sira, and the Hadith.
“But that cannot be the whole story,” you will object. “My Muslim friends and neighbors are perfectly respectable and pleasant!”
Indeed, outside the context of Islam, they are human beings like anyone else, neither better nor worse. But this does not change the fact that when they act as Muslims, even in a courteous and friendly manner, they are participating in a system that is working toward your extermination and the destruction of your society.
People are not the problem here; the source of the problem is the Islamic ideology that demands the extermination of kuffar like you.
Finally, there is only one really useful thing to know about Islam:
A kafir can expect nothing good from Islam, absolutely nothing.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/02/islam-explained-for-those-who-do-not.html#readfurther
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Winston Smith:„ Mr. Quraishy,Sorry for the delay....."First of all, by using the...”
Skrevet af Dear Winston Smith
You have often asked me why I do not answer the concrete questions asked by 180 Grader's commentators, concerning Islam and Muslim communities.
In this blog, you gave the answer yourself when you wrote such nonsense as:
"Islam kræver af sine tilhængere, at Kafir ('den vantro' ogdermed også de fleste danskere) skal udryddes."
Your homemade explanation of the word,Kafir is based on your own anti-Islam hate and lack of knowledge, not only of Islam but of historical events.No wonder you are praising the article; IslamExplained for Those Who Do Not Read the Koran, because it appeals to your ignorance and is meant for those who hardly ever open a book let alone have the intellectual capacity to investigate the reality and whose hearts are filled with hate of Islam.
I would suggest, you read the book, Islam for dummies by Professor Malcolm Clark. That will give you better food for thought.
Anyhow without wasting more of my precious time,here are few facts of the word Kafir.
Firstly, its origin is from the Hebrew cognate word Kofer meaning"an apostate".
Secondly, the Arabic term Kafir in an Islamic doctrinal sense, is usually translated as "unbeliever" or "disbeliever", or sometimes infidel. The term actually refers to a person who rejects GOD.
According to Quran, Christian and Jews are People of the Book because they believe in GOD and have scriptures. The term Kafir used in Quran is not about the people of the book or Danes - as you so lovely insert - but people of Arabia of 7th century who were pagans and worshiped many gods.
Islam does not under any circumstance sanctions or asks its followers to exterminate (udrydde ) Jews and Christian. This is the biggest lie of all times which is being spread by anti-Islam forces to scare the ordinary people in the West, exactly as Nazis spread lies about innocent Jewish people before committing the greatest genocide in the history of mankind on the name of Christianity.
Thirdly, after the Christian conquest of South Africa and until the dismantling of the apartheid regime, the term Kaffir was generally used to refer to a person who spoke the Bantu language hailing from South East Africa. Over time however it gradually became a highly offensive and derogatory term applied to any coloured person or rather Black Africans in particular. Historically however it was the term used to indicate a person native to South Africa duringthe age of imperialism.
So here it is. I do hope that you have learnt a tiny bit today. By the way, you also forgot to mention to the Islam ignorant readers of this blog that the web sites - Gates of Vienna and Truth, Values, and Democracy are supported by people like Gert Wilders and Lars Hedegaard as well as a host of other bigots and Islamophobes.This information may be helpful to some on 180 Grader.
Kind regards
Bashy Quraishy
You have often asked me why I do not answer the concrete questions asked by 180 Grader's commentators, concerning Islam and Muslim communities.
In this blog, you gave the answer yourself when you wrote such nonsense as:
"Islam kræver af sine tilhængere, at Kafir ('den vantro' ogdermed også de fleste danskere) skal udryddes."
Your homemade explanation of the word,Kafir is based on your own anti-Islam hate and lack of knowledge, not only of Islam but of historical events.No wonder you are praising the article; IslamExplained for Those Who Do Not Read the Koran, because it appeals to your ignorance and is meant for those who hardly ever open a book let alone have the intellectual capacity to investigate the reality and whose hearts are filled with hate of Islam.
I would suggest, you read the book, Islam for dummies by Professor Malcolm Clark. That will give you better food for thought.
Anyhow without wasting more of my precious time,here are few facts of the word Kafir.
Firstly, its origin is from the Hebrew cognate word Kofer meaning"an apostate".
Secondly, the Arabic term Kafir in an Islamic doctrinal sense, is usually translated as "unbeliever" or "disbeliever", or sometimes infidel. The term actually refers to a person who rejects GOD.
According to Quran, Christian and Jews are People of the Book because they believe in GOD and have scriptures. The term Kafir used in Quran is not about the people of the book or Danes - as you so lovely insert - but people of Arabia of 7th century who were pagans and worshiped many gods.
Islam does not under any circumstance sanctions or asks its followers to exterminate (udrydde ) Jews and Christian. This is the biggest lie of all times which is being spread by anti-Islam forces to scare the ordinary people in the West, exactly as Nazis spread lies about innocent Jewish people before committing the greatest genocide in the history of mankind on the name of Christianity.
Thirdly, after the Christian conquest of South Africa and until the dismantling of the apartheid regime, the term Kaffir was generally used to refer to a person who spoke the Bantu language hailing from South East Africa. Over time however it gradually became a highly offensive and derogatory term applied to any coloured person or rather Black Africans in particular. Historically however it was the term used to indicate a person native to South Africa duringthe age of imperialism.
So here it is. I do hope that you have learnt a tiny bit today. By the way, you also forgot to mention to the Islam ignorant readers of this blog that the web sites - Gates of Vienna and Truth, Values, and Democracy are supported by people like Gert Wilders and Lars Hedegaard as well as a host of other bigots and Islamophobes.This information may be helpful to some on 180 Grader.
Kind regards
Bashy Quraishy
Dear Bashy Quraishy,
"Your homemade explanation of the word,Kafir is based on your own anti-Islam hate and lack of knowledge"
Ohh, is that so Mr. Quraishy. Well, instead of using a lot of my precious time I will let your own people explain what 'kuffar' really means. And what you and your people really think about them. Cause you say one thing when the kuffar are listening and another when they don't. Ain't it so?
The video is a little long but you can take the time can't you Mr. Bashy. You are a patient man. Pay attention from around 1:40 and on...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2515587181120245843#
And by the way. Contrary to your brothers in arms revealed in the video, I do not hate anyone. I am not like you: Hate is for losers - I just reserve the right to protect myself against them.
"I do hope that you have learnt atiny bit today."
I learn new and interesting things every day. I have also learned something today, but it wasn't from you. Sorry.
"By the way, you also forgot to tell the Islam ignorant readersof this blog that the websites - Gates of Vienna and Truth, Values, and Democracy are supported bypeople like Gert Wilders and Lars Hedegaard as well as a host of other bigotsand Islamophobes."
Regarding Geert Wilders and Lars Hedegaard I have no problem. Whats wrong with them? Are they violent? Are they against democracy? Are they threatening anyone? Enlighten me. Please!
Regarding the 'bigots' I have no clue as to whom you are referring to. Could it be those who are described here?
Regarding the 'Islamophobes' you lost me completely. I simply do not know who you are talking about. The word is a muslim construction meant to marginalize and stigmatize people who criticize islam. The way I see it, it is a compliment. Who are the sane persons that you are talking about here?
By the way; In the former communist, totalitarian umma called the USSR the rulers applied the same kind of tactics. Many political opponents were accused of 'being insane' or suffering from different types of 'irrational anxiety'. For that they were thrown into mental institutions. Problem solved. Motive? To prevent the public from discovering the truth. Why? Because the truth would take the power away from them.
This strategy will not work. It never does.
"Your homemade explanation of the word,Kafir is based on your own anti-Islam hate and lack of knowledge"
Ohh, is that so Mr. Quraishy. Well, instead of using a lot of my precious time I will let your own people explain what 'kuffar' really means. And what you and your people really think about them. Cause you say one thing when the kuffar are listening and another when they don't. Ain't it so?
The video is a little long but you can take the time can't you Mr. Bashy. You are a patient man. Pay attention from around 1:40 and on...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2515587181120245843#
And by the way. Contrary to your brothers in arms revealed in the video, I do not hate anyone. I am not like you: Hate is for losers - I just reserve the right to protect myself against them.
"I do hope that you have learnt atiny bit today."
I learn new and interesting things every day. I have also learned something today, but it wasn't from you. Sorry.
"By the way, you also forgot to tell the Islam ignorant readersof this blog that the websites - Gates of Vienna and Truth, Values, and Democracy are supported bypeople like Gert Wilders and Lars Hedegaard as well as a host of other bigotsand Islamophobes."
Regarding Geert Wilders and Lars Hedegaard I have no problem. Whats wrong with them? Are they violent? Are they against democracy? Are they threatening anyone? Enlighten me. Please!
Regarding the 'bigots' I have no clue as to whom you are referring to. Could it be those who are described here?
Regarding the 'Islamophobes' you lost me completely. I simply do not know who you are talking about. The word is a muslim construction meant to marginalize and stigmatize people who criticize islam. The way I see it, it is a compliment. Who are the sane persons that you are talking about here?
By the way; In the former communist, totalitarian umma called the USSR the rulers applied the same kind of tactics. Many political opponents were accused of 'being insane' or suffering from different types of 'irrational anxiety'. For that they were thrown into mental institutions. Problem solved. Motive? To prevent the public from discovering the truth. Why? Because the truth would take the power away from them.
This strategy will not work. It never does.
Dear Mr. Winston Smith
Thanksa lot for your quick response. You have asked me to clarify few valid points. I am with pleasure giving you spot on answers. I however do hope that as I have listened to your arguments with care, you will give the same courtesy to ponder, what I have to say.
You say; “ I will let your own people explain what 'kuffar' really means.And what you and your people really think about them. Cause you say one thingwhen the kuffar are listening and another when they don't. Ain't it so?”
Firstof all, by using the term “your own people” exclusively for these loud mouth preachers of hate and their twisted manner of presenting views, you are displaying your ignorance of my person.
I am absolutely not religious. I have nothing in common with such nutcases, which, you see on this video. I have seen this video before and I denounce these statements, which are coming out of these preachers. This is alien to the majority of Muslim communities all over theworld. These preachers of hate do not represent the Islam, which is known to me.The same way, Hitler’s views on Jews during the Nazi period and Martin Luther’s racist views on Judaism in 16th century do not represent Christianity and hopefully your thinking either.
Iam sure that you are aware that such nutcases are present in all religions. I have read and even heard on national TV many Bible belt preachers in USA and some hate monger Jewish firebrands right in front of the sacred Wailing Wall saying things, which no civilized person would approve. But I also know that the majority of people including Danes are decent people. Why do not you apply the same standard for 1.7 billion people in the world who happen to belong to Islam?
To me all these hate mongers are nothing more than a passing phase in the history of humanity. I divide people not according to their religion but their deeds. There are decent people and then there are IDIOTS. Between them, there is a great grey mass. Bythe way, there are many international surveys, conducted by respected organisations like World Economic Forum,Gallop Polls, Fundamental Rights Agency, Open Society and USA State Department which amply demonstrate that European hatred against Muslims is very widespread.
Please do not tell me that all these organisations are all secret admirers of Islam. It is also interesting that hatred against Islam and Muslims is exclusively in the Anglo-Saxon areas of the world and not anywhere else. What does it prove? You can figure out? Cannot, you?
Thenyou say that:“The word Islamophobia is a Muslim construction meant to marginalize and stigmatize people who criticize Islam.”
Dear Winston, do not claim things, you have noknowledge about or have not researched. Here is a little information for yourenlightenment.The term dates back to late 1980s but came into common usage after the September 11,2001 attacks in the United States. In 1997, the British Runnymede Trust defined Islamophobia as;
“The dread or hatred ofIslam and therefore, to the fear and dislike of all Muslims," stating that it also refers to the practice of discriminating against Muslims by excluding them from the economic, social, and public life of the nation. It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West and is a violent political ideology rather than a religion.
Steps were taken toward official acceptance of the term in January 2001 at the "Stockholm International Forum on Combating Intolerance", where Islamophobia was recognized as a form of intolerance alongside Xenophobia and Anti-Semitism.
Then you are say; “Regarding Geert Wilders andLars Hedegaard I have no problem. What is wrong with them?”
Well, if you ask me what is wrong with them, then I have to ask you, where have you been living for the last few years? Most politicians,media and intellectuals all over the world and Denmark have heavily denounced both these men for their open-ended hatred against Islam and Muslims. Even a person like your favorite Uncle Tom, Naser Khader have denounced them. Need I say more!
Kind regards
Bashy Quraishy
Mr. Quraishy,
Sorry for the delay.....
"First of all, by using the term “your own people” exclusively for these loud mouth preachers of hate and their twisted manner of presenting views, you are displaying your ignorance of my person...."
Well, I am actually applying the same method as you have done for many years Mr. Quraishy. I am surprised by your indignation. It is no different than when you – through national and international medias - are spreading your poisonous accusations against Danes (in general) as being the leading racists in the world [Examples HERE and HERE] etc. The fact that you criticize me for doing the same says more about you than you think.
Ever since you were granted permission to stay in Denmark you have done nothing but harm to this great and tolerant nation. Observing you and all your hateful accusations against us who have offered you to be part of our ‘family’ – with all the benefits that follows - is painful beyond belief.
The fact that you cannot even see it yourself is heartbreaking. Because that means that you have an image of yourself being some kind of Robin Hood, the protector of the poor and suppressed. And that you are most definitely not.
And when you say that these islamic preachers of hate (in the movie) is not a part of ‘your people’ I must laugh. Who do you think that you have been defending for the last many years? You say that they do not represent ‘the islam that is knownto you’. Well this REALLY demands elaboration. Either this is just another taqyia/kitman maneuver from your side or you are being outright naive. Can you please explain to me which kind of islam - exactly - that you have come to know? Please.
Last time I checked I am sure that there was only one quran. The root of islam is this unchangeable book supported by the hadith and sira. Muhammed (a murderer, a pedophile, awarmonger, a thief, a robber, a man of extreme violence) is their prophet. That constitutes the foundation of the tree called islam. Now, which branch of this tree do you specialize in Mr. Quraishy. Since all these religious branches are growing on the same bole they are all – in their root – part of the same hateful, political,semispiritual, socialistic monster called islam. Which kind of islam does not use Muhammed, the quran and the hadith to nurture their ideology and rules of life? Can you please help me here? And also: When you write these kind of things it makes me wonder whether you have actually read and understood the article at all.
Look at what is written in the lastpart:
“Indeed, outside the context of Islam, they are human beings like anyone else, neither better nor worse. But this does not change the fact that when they act as Muslims, even in a courteous and friendly manner, they are participating in a system that is working toward your extermination and the destruction of your society."
This isessential. ‘Outside the context of islam,they are human beings like anyone else…”. What is implicitly being said here is that islam (no matter which kind!) – since it is in its root a totalitarian political ideology – can NEVER integrate into a secular democratic entity. They are opposites. Oil and vinegar. The underlying conflict between muslims – no matter how nice they are as persons or which ‘branch’ they belong to – and non-muslims will ALWAYS be there. It is a hidden war since none of the two combatants – muslims and non-muslims – have not actually acknowledged that islam is first and foremost apolitical ideology.
Communists and extreme socialists jumps on the muslim bandwagon because they see the conflict as being one of religious suppression (against muslim minorities).They defend a religion although they have used the most of the 20. century denouncing exactly religion as being ‘opium for the people’.
Why do they do this?
Because the political message of islam is so alike their own. That’s why. It is the same totalitarian, socialistic rubbish. The root of this fight that we are in will lie beneath the surface and nurture the conflict until islam is fundamentally reformed or democracy is gone.
No matter how loud you scream your accusations towards me and my fellow Danish citizens. You can see this all over my beautiful country already: The more muslims in a specific area the more the conflicts manifest itself in real life. The more special demands for halal food and prayer-rooms. The more violence aginst non-muslims especially elderly Danish citizens.The more rapes of non-muslim girls. The more arsons against non-muslim property.The more manifestations against representatives of the non-muslim democratic state (police, ambulances, firefighters and schools etc.) The more…. The more visible the war becomes.
You can’t help it. It is no different than when you make an oil/vinegar dressing. It will split since the chemical construction of the components leaves them with no other option.
Fact is, that if you are not a religious man - as you now say - but a democratic one, you are - as we ‘speak’ - working on your self destruction. It is fascinating.
What you and your muslim cooperatives postulate as being constant attacks on islam as a religion is in reality constant attacks on islam as a political totalitarian ideology; an ideology comparable to National Socialism or Communism at its finest. First step to solve this is to acknowledge that this is NOT a religious conflict. But a political one.It has NOTHING to do with race.
And thereby we are back at ‘islamophobia’.
You know, I am touched. You start out refuting my postulate by telling that the term dates back to late 1980’s. But you do not bother to find out why and from were it came. Then you state that it first came into common usage after 9/11. And that it was followed by an official acceptance of the term in Stockholm (of all places) the same year. Are you kidding me? Is that your best explanation?
You haven’t even started to look at its origin. You have refuted nothing!
Let us go back. Maybe further back than the late 1980’s. here is what I ‘think’ happened. You go refute it one more time if you want to: A bunch of Muslims cook up a psychiatric term to be used against any foe who questions islam. The term is to be used every time a non-muslim tries to initiate debate about whether this so called religion might have a hidden dark and violent side. They start using the term systematically against their enemies. They are successful in this strategy. People don't want to be outcasts or institutionalized. So they start to think twice before voicing their opinion about islam. Maybe it is safer to stop criticizing Islamic hate- and warmongers than risk spending the rest of their life in condemnation. Then muslims commit one horrific act after another. A steady stream of atrocities which nobody dares to criticize since the price for doing so is very high. Again: People do not want to be outcasts. Muslims reach their bliss point at the WTC in 2001 by committing one of the worst atrocities in human history. This causes a lot of people to become very skeptical – to say the least – towards these criminal, pseudo-religious villains. So what to do as a muslim?
Well they will do as any other representative of a totalitarian ideology would do: Draw the Islamophobia card! It now has even been approved of by 'high standard' western institution. And Bling….all these people who air this sound skepticism and anxiety towards the mortal threat have collectively become diagnosed with a psychiatric disease. For stating the obvious. It is the perfect weapon. Holy cow, we are living in interesting times. We are back in the good old USSR (kan du huske det gode gamle begreb: Kommunistforskrækkelse?). Have you ever read 1984 by George Orwell? Well if not, you should. You are part of it.
“Well, if you ask me what is wrong with them, then I have to ask you, where have you been living for the last few years? Most politicians,media and intellectuals all over the world and Denmark have heavily denounced both these men for their open-ended hatred against Islam and Muslims. Even a person like your favorite Uncle Tom, Naser Khader have denounced them. Need I say more!”
Ha…! Now you got me laughing Mr. Quraishy. So you judge people by what the majority thinks about them? Is that what you are telling me here? Did you also mock the easy prey in school since all the other did so as well? How low can you get? History is full of famous people who were denounced and fire branded in their time for stating things contrary to public opinion or taste.
I do not care about what the majority thinks about Lars Hedegaard or Geert Wilders. I listen to them and make up my own mind. And so far I have not heard a single word of hate from their side. Well that’s not quite true. Actually they have used hate speech; that was when they repeated the statements of the islamists.
And finally you are addressing Nasser Khader again: ‘my favourite Uncle Tom’ as you put it.
Let me answer this part in three stages:
1) Naser Khader is a politician. Some of his views I agree upon. Some of them I do not. No matter what, he is far from being my political favourite. As a person though we have a whole other situation. That part of Naser Khader I really like. Only thing I am sad about is that he is still a muslim. He should convert in my opinion. But that is Mr. Khaders own case is it not?
2) By using the word ‘Uncle Tom’ you are being extremely rude and racist. The term indicates that Khader is a black man saying what he says just to please his white supremacist. How do you dare talk about one of the most courageous men in Denmark like that? A man who lives with bodyguards and who are no longer free. All because he stands up for democracy and free speech? Who are you to call him ‘Uncle Tom’?
3) Khader is fully entitled of his views about Hedegaard and Wilders. As are you. I do not agree about it though and before you take this any further (and this is also meant for people like Khader) I think we are all entitled to actually see some backing up of your accusations. Give me examples of the hate you postulate they are spreading. Please. Or stop your accusations.
Kind regards
Winston
PS: And as usual Mr. Khader contributes today with a well balanced comment on the continuing farce.
Sorry for the delay.....
"First of all, by using the term “your own people” exclusively for these loud mouth preachers of hate and their twisted manner of presenting views, you are displaying your ignorance of my person...."
Well, I am actually applying the same method as you have done for many years Mr. Quraishy. I am surprised by your indignation. It is no different than when you – through national and international medias - are spreading your poisonous accusations against Danes (in general) as being the leading racists in the world [Examples HERE and HERE] etc. The fact that you criticize me for doing the same says more about you than you think.
Ever since you were granted permission to stay in Denmark you have done nothing but harm to this great and tolerant nation. Observing you and all your hateful accusations against us who have offered you to be part of our ‘family’ – with all the benefits that follows - is painful beyond belief.
The fact that you cannot even see it yourself is heartbreaking. Because that means that you have an image of yourself being some kind of Robin Hood, the protector of the poor and suppressed. And that you are most definitely not.
And when you say that these islamic preachers of hate (in the movie) is not a part of ‘your people’ I must laugh. Who do you think that you have been defending for the last many years? You say that they do not represent ‘the islam that is knownto you’. Well this REALLY demands elaboration. Either this is just another taqyia/kitman maneuver from your side or you are being outright naive. Can you please explain to me which kind of islam - exactly - that you have come to know? Please.
Last time I checked I am sure that there was only one quran. The root of islam is this unchangeable book supported by the hadith and sira. Muhammed (a murderer, a pedophile, awarmonger, a thief, a robber, a man of extreme violence) is their prophet. That constitutes the foundation of the tree called islam. Now, which branch of this tree do you specialize in Mr. Quraishy. Since all these religious branches are growing on the same bole they are all – in their root – part of the same hateful, political,semispiritual, socialistic monster called islam. Which kind of islam does not use Muhammed, the quran and the hadith to nurture their ideology and rules of life? Can you please help me here? And also: When you write these kind of things it makes me wonder whether you have actually read and understood the article at all.
Look at what is written in the lastpart:
“Indeed, outside the context of Islam, they are human beings like anyone else, neither better nor worse. But this does not change the fact that when they act as Muslims, even in a courteous and friendly manner, they are participating in a system that is working toward your extermination and the destruction of your society."
This isessential. ‘Outside the context of islam,they are human beings like anyone else…”. What is implicitly being said here is that islam (no matter which kind!) – since it is in its root a totalitarian political ideology – can NEVER integrate into a secular democratic entity. They are opposites. Oil and vinegar. The underlying conflict between muslims – no matter how nice they are as persons or which ‘branch’ they belong to – and non-muslims will ALWAYS be there. It is a hidden war since none of the two combatants – muslims and non-muslims – have not actually acknowledged that islam is first and foremost apolitical ideology.
Communists and extreme socialists jumps on the muslim bandwagon because they see the conflict as being one of religious suppression (against muslim minorities).They defend a religion although they have used the most of the 20. century denouncing exactly religion as being ‘opium for the people’.
Why do they do this?
Because the political message of islam is so alike their own. That’s why. It is the same totalitarian, socialistic rubbish. The root of this fight that we are in will lie beneath the surface and nurture the conflict until islam is fundamentally reformed or democracy is gone.
No matter how loud you scream your accusations towards me and my fellow Danish citizens. You can see this all over my beautiful country already: The more muslims in a specific area the more the conflicts manifest itself in real life. The more special demands for halal food and prayer-rooms. The more violence aginst non-muslims especially elderly Danish citizens.The more rapes of non-muslim girls. The more arsons against non-muslim property.The more manifestations against representatives of the non-muslim democratic state (police, ambulances, firefighters and schools etc.) The more…. The more visible the war becomes.
You can’t help it. It is no different than when you make an oil/vinegar dressing. It will split since the chemical construction of the components leaves them with no other option.
Fact is, that if you are not a religious man - as you now say - but a democratic one, you are - as we ‘speak’ - working on your self destruction. It is fascinating.
What you and your muslim cooperatives postulate as being constant attacks on islam as a religion is in reality constant attacks on islam as a political totalitarian ideology; an ideology comparable to National Socialism or Communism at its finest. First step to solve this is to acknowledge that this is NOT a religious conflict. But a political one.It has NOTHING to do with race.
And thereby we are back at ‘islamophobia’.
You know, I am touched. You start out refuting my postulate by telling that the term dates back to late 1980’s. But you do not bother to find out why and from were it came. Then you state that it first came into common usage after 9/11. And that it was followed by an official acceptance of the term in Stockholm (of all places) the same year. Are you kidding me? Is that your best explanation?
You haven’t even started to look at its origin. You have refuted nothing!
Let us go back. Maybe further back than the late 1980’s. here is what I ‘think’ happened. You go refute it one more time if you want to: A bunch of Muslims cook up a psychiatric term to be used against any foe who questions islam. The term is to be used every time a non-muslim tries to initiate debate about whether this so called religion might have a hidden dark and violent side. They start using the term systematically against their enemies. They are successful in this strategy. People don't want to be outcasts or institutionalized. So they start to think twice before voicing their opinion about islam. Maybe it is safer to stop criticizing Islamic hate- and warmongers than risk spending the rest of their life in condemnation. Then muslims commit one horrific act after another. A steady stream of atrocities which nobody dares to criticize since the price for doing so is very high. Again: People do not want to be outcasts. Muslims reach their bliss point at the WTC in 2001 by committing one of the worst atrocities in human history. This causes a lot of people to become very skeptical – to say the least – towards these criminal, pseudo-religious villains. So what to do as a muslim?
Well they will do as any other representative of a totalitarian ideology would do: Draw the Islamophobia card! It now has even been approved of by 'high standard' western institution. And Bling….all these people who air this sound skepticism and anxiety towards the mortal threat have collectively become diagnosed with a psychiatric disease. For stating the obvious. It is the perfect weapon. Holy cow, we are living in interesting times. We are back in the good old USSR (kan du huske det gode gamle begreb: Kommunistforskrækkelse?). Have you ever read 1984 by George Orwell? Well if not, you should. You are part of it.
“Well, if you ask me what is wrong with them, then I have to ask you, where have you been living for the last few years? Most politicians,media and intellectuals all over the world and Denmark have heavily denounced both these men for their open-ended hatred against Islam and Muslims. Even a person like your favorite Uncle Tom, Naser Khader have denounced them. Need I say more!”
Ha…! Now you got me laughing Mr. Quraishy. So you judge people by what the majority thinks about them? Is that what you are telling me here? Did you also mock the easy prey in school since all the other did so as well? How low can you get? History is full of famous people who were denounced and fire branded in their time for stating things contrary to public opinion or taste.
I do not care about what the majority thinks about Lars Hedegaard or Geert Wilders. I listen to them and make up my own mind. And so far I have not heard a single word of hate from their side. Well that’s not quite true. Actually they have used hate speech; that was when they repeated the statements of the islamists.
And finally you are addressing Nasser Khader again: ‘my favourite Uncle Tom’ as you put it.
Let me answer this part in three stages:
1) Naser Khader is a politician. Some of his views I agree upon. Some of them I do not. No matter what, he is far from being my political favourite. As a person though we have a whole other situation. That part of Naser Khader I really like. Only thing I am sad about is that he is still a muslim. He should convert in my opinion. But that is Mr. Khaders own case is it not?
2) By using the word ‘Uncle Tom’ you are being extremely rude and racist. The term indicates that Khader is a black man saying what he says just to please his white supremacist. How do you dare talk about one of the most courageous men in Denmark like that? A man who lives with bodyguards and who are no longer free. All because he stands up for democracy and free speech? Who are you to call him ‘Uncle Tom’?
3) Khader is fully entitled of his views about Hedegaard and Wilders. As are you. I do not agree about it though and before you take this any further (and this is also meant for people like Khader) I think we are all entitled to actually see some backing up of your accusations. Give me examples of the hate you postulate they are spreading. Please. Or stop your accusations.
Kind regards
Winston
PS: And as usual Mr. Khader contributes today with a well balanced comment on the continuing farce.
Skrevet af Nice enough post, but I would change the definition of Muslim:
A Muslim is anyone who describes themselves as a Muslim. Self-identifying Muslims are everything from peace-loving secularists with a pantheistic streak to hate-spewing terrorists. In and of itself the tag "Muslim" tells us very little about the person being tagged.
Islam is a horrible little religion (by far the worst of the major religions in this world), but it is our great blessing, that many Muslim don't try to follow it, and those that do fall way short of the horrible standards set by God in The Quran.
A Muslim is anyone who describes themselves as a Muslim. Self-identifying Muslims are everything from peace-loving secularists with a pantheistic streak to hate-spewing terrorists. In and of itself the tag "Muslim" tells us very little about the person being tagged.
Islam is a horrible little religion (by far the worst of the major religions in this world), but it is our great blessing, that many Muslim don't try to follow it, and those that do fall way short of the horrible standards set by God in The Quran.
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